Buck brought on National Review columnist Heather Wilhelm to discuss a piece she wrote on the numerous corrosive effects of mass media hyperbole.

It seemed the perfect day to discuss the matter given that much of the mainstream media appeared willing to ignore the revelation from Bloomberg View’s Eli Lake that former NSA head Susan Rice was behind the unmasking of members of the Trump transition team, while promoting a smoke-and-mirrors story about the administration establishing an apparent backwater channel to Moscow via .

The discussion featured a bit of hyperbole from Wilhelm.

“People elected Donald Trump because he was a showman,” she said. Referring to Trump’s first few months in office and the failed pseudo-repeal-and-replace bill, she joked, “This is the worst show on earth.”

Heather’s argument is that hyperbole, aided by the catalyst of social media, both skews public perceptions, and makes a public deluged with hot takes disinterested.

“It’s hard to see through to what matters,” Wilhelm said. “It’s exhausting. You can’t even follow it.”

“I go to dinner with friends with different political persuasions, and they tell me, ‘Look, Heather, I don’t even pay attention anymore.’ Which is a shame, because there are important things people should be paying attention to.”

Buck inquired about how Wilhelm felt about Republicans potentially resorting to the nuclear option in the Gorsuch confirmation hearings.

“I want to see Gorsuch confirmed,” Wilhelm said, “but there’s some dangerous territory we’re getting into as well. This is the problem with the government right now: whatever powers the GOP gives itself, that’s gonna hit back when Democrats get the majority.”

In addition to disinterest, Wilhelm said she believes the hyperbole has an even more corrosive effect.

“The problem with the-world-is-ending pieces is that you get an overinflated sense of what government should be doing, what the government is doing in our lives” she said. “We get the sense we’re hugely dependent on the government, and it’s a bit of a sham.”

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