To discuss the breakdown of the Trump/Russia collusion narrative and the supposed leak that President Trump is under investigation in the Special Counsel probe, and take a wider view of the shooting of GOP congressmen, Buck invited David French, Senior Writer of the National Review, to the Freedom Hut Wednesday evening.
Buck asked to hear more about David’s post on liberty and virtue.
“When you have a breakdown like this, you don’t want to suppress liberty,” said French. “You want to protect free speech. But you have a problem in this country. We’re losing this concept of what the Founders would call ordered liberty, where you exercise your freedoms, but you do so against the background of a basic level of respect, decency, and virtue.”
“We have a rhetorical temperature problem in this country, and it’s not surprising to see this leak into violence,” said French.
“I always appreciated when people in good faith try to apply a historical context to something like this,” said Buck. “And I’m seeing people try to apply things like the turn of the century, and we shouldn’t ignore that it is worse than it was in 2012 with Romney and Obama.”
“Yeah, it’s weird to say, ‘It’s not as bad as it was in 1868, so it’s not a problem. The direction we’re going in is bad, and we can’t just shove it under the rug.”
“Do you think that the internet and social media has an effect, in that people can act on hyperbole and put themselves in a constant loop, and self-radicalize as a leftist?”
“Totally,” said French. “There’s an actual term for this, it’s called the law of group polarization. When people of like mind gather, they tend to gravitate more to the extreme. And what social media does is break down that physical barrier that used to prevent people from gathering, and makes it easy. You can gather with people of like mind, and really stoke fury.”
The two then moved to a discussion of the dissolution of the Trump/Russia collusion narrative, and the news that the Special Counsel is looking at the President for obstruction of justice.
“Isn’t this a leak?” asked Buck.
“I don’t know,” said French. “One of the interesting things to come out of this Comey hearing was his complete takedown of a New York Times story” about Trump/Russia collusion. That looked like a leak of classified information, but in fact, it seems like it was no such thing. It seems like it was untrue. So what I’m going to do from now on is, when it comes to these anonymously sourced stories, some are so unreliable that we don’t even know if there was a leak. I would classify a leak as a communication of truthful information through an anonymous source. What we have it appears are rumor, innuendo, and fabrication. So it’s really hard to say.”
“If it is a leak, that would not be in keeping with what we’ve heard about Robert Mueller’s character.”
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